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Replies in redJed wrote:well this thread is over my head
and yes I speed grinded, I figured what is the difference between knowing nothing at level 20 or knowing nothing at level 90,,,either way you still know nothing at least at 90 you have more options to better learn.
And way more to be puzzled over
You say the schemitic sets the cap for a particular trait in a resource. you used CD as an example: My question would be simply how do you know that CD is the most important resource out of all them for that particular raw material and how do you know what the cap is?
I take Bofa Treat (an elementary food given every Novice Trader) as an example, it reads:
Experimental Nutritional Value
Nutritional Value
Overall Quality 33%
Potential Energy 66%
Nutritional Value is read "power" in SWG-ish. Here the schematic reads that OQ and PE are both important for this particular "experimental line", the power line. PE has 66% weight and OQ has 33% weight. In this schematic both Cereal and Organic is asked for (the Cereal can of course be used in both slots as Cereal is an Organic sub-class). Looking in the list of known caps I see the neither of PE nor OQ has a cap for Cereal. Only if Cereal should have had a cap it would be considered.
However, if you now try the very best Wild Rice (a Cereal) you can find it may has PE at 700. You will not find a higher PE for Wild Rice since it has a cap at 700. So your rice has perfect PE, but since the schematic calls for Cereal that doesn't matter, Cereal has no cap on PE. You rather try another kind of Cereal that has no cap, Domesticated Rice for example.
Notice that the parent classes never has a more narrow cap than the "widest" range from a sub-class. As for example the two kinds of Rices discussed, since Dom Rice has no cap on PE then Rice cannot have a cap on PE and neither can Cereal.
Hence, which stats should be considered in each particular case is read in the schematic. Sometimes several "lines" must be considered making the choice of resources even more trickier.
However, even though almost all items can be experimented on many of them really have no quality that affects game play. Take a quick look at Savacc's Architect FAQ in the Structure forum and you will see that it is not many items an Architect needs great resources for, but those that require quality are the pickier. This knowledge comes over time, it is not read in the schematic but from experience and reading the forums.
what about the other resources steel has extra how much do they weight in and how do you know? When i ask this question the answer is normally that cap guide, so I harvest some steel on Mustfar and try to find it on that cap guide and its not there.
I don't understand the question here, I blame the late night at my location and that English is not my native tongue. As I mentioned before, pick an easy schematic, why not Camp Batteries, the only item where quality matters for camps, the better quality the longer the camp stays. Try a few different steels and non-ferrous metals with different OQ (the only stat that matters in these) and apply the stats and the number of units in the formulas in the power crafting section of the beginners guide. A lousy example maybe sine OQ has no cap in any resource class.
Then find some schematics that calls for two stats that must be good and play around with these. Applying what you read to some simple practicing usually lets the knowledge sink in. Personally, in spite of having written several guides by now, I am a slow player, not slow learner but player and I prefer to learn by practice over learning by theory.
I made a trader for a few reason
1) i wanted a vendor to sell things on. I register and enbable vendor search put stuff on it pay maintence and the stuff i have DOES NOT show up on bazzar searches--complete failure and I dont know what else to do
That should work. May I ask some silly questions: At the Bazaar, are you really looking at the tab named Vendor Location? Are there many pages so your items are listed at one of the latest pages?
Tip: craft an item with a silly name and go to the vendor location search and filter for that name, does the item show up then?
2) I wanted to re my own space loot---thank god this is an easy one--sucess
Cool, and over time you may be a great SW!
3) I wanted to craft the new reward engine as well as the new gun boat.--Failure I think.
Probably not failure, but not a great idea as long as you don't have the necessary resources stacked, a great SW suit, and the knowledge to avoid failure and to achieve success.
I dont have the time or the willingness to try to run math forumla's just to determine of my one hour search for a resource is going to be good for my gun ship. I mean you can run around surveying for hours tying to find a high consentration of a material harvest it and it can be low quality?
That is why many players use the Current Resources listings at this sites main page. But since they are user driven it is good practice to sub,it and take part yourself too
I read that mustafar was the best place to get resources for ship wrights, so, let me ask it plainly this way.
This is since Mustafar not only have really high, or no upper caps, these resources also has high lower caps which effectively grants the stats to always be above a minimum level. Or differently put, the average resource quality is granted to always be great at Mustafar.
If I get all my resources from mustafar, (not knowing if they are good or bad) drink wine and get some ent buffs, should i craft my gun boat and my engine I bought from the new station or
would it be better to just hire someone to build it for me? Meaning will my stuff potentional suck cause I dont understand how resources work or will it not make that big a difference?
Since you seem to have more to learn I would advise you to ask a skilled SW. Possibly you could mine a lot of great resources yourself and that way get a good rebate. Otherwise wait until you feel comfortable and know that you know what you are doing.
oh and if i could sneak in an "experiment question" when i make something i can "expermient" I doint know what i am doing i normally hit a few of the buttons to make them turn green, green normally means good right? then i hit the button, it does some things, then i cant click anything else so I say ok "make" then I get this "you sure you want to make it you have 7 more experiments left" --well no i am not sure but, it wont let me click anything else so I guess i am done either way...... I am confused by this
All crafting is done in two phases when you use an elite crafting tool and are standing close to the appropriate crafting station:
1) The assembly phase which puts together your resources and components into a "first attempt". The cap for the maximum result from this phase is 29% which is possible to get with perfect resources and at least a Great Success during the assembly.
2) The experimentation phase which is the only way to boost the outcome. Each one of these boxes, 10 or more when you are a master, can be used up one-by-one, a-few-at-a-time, or all-at-once, normally the middle way is to prefer. Each box get its worth from the dice roll when you click "run experiment" and the values are listed in the guide. Assume you had selected 3 boxes and you got an Amazing, then 3x8.05=24.15 is added to the initial value. Next time you selected 2 boxes and got a Great Success which is 2x7=14 added to the accumulated result. And so forth.
If you skip remaining boxes you cannot improve on the final result no more. If you have achieved maximum result and have remaining boxes, then you cannot improve the result no more. If your resources are not good enough you will see that you are not allowed to experiment anymore but the bar does not reach the theoretical maximum but only for what the resources allowed for.
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